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'Lost' Episode 7: Labor Pain
Well, certainly, when your wife tells you at 8:45 p.m. she might be going into labor, this is the episode of "Lost" you want to be watching, isn't it?
Suffice it to say, for all the tension you might have felt during tonight's latest segment, there was a double dose in the Weisman household. We seem to be in a holding pattern, but forgive me if I suddenly have to make this evening's post short (but hopefully at least half as sweet as little Ji Yeon).
"Lost" has a way of making you (or should I say, me) feel stupid, but most of the time, it does it in a good way. Tonight, by the time I realized that Jin's Korea events were a flashback even though Sun's were a flash-forward, I felt dumb for taking so long to clue in. But I think that speaks to how well-executed the scenes were. Though "Lost" has had few kookier moments than Jin's headlong pursuit of a stuffed panda, there was enough of an eerie vibe to make them feel natural. And certainly, the creepy OB and nurse attending to Sun in the hospital had me and my couchridden wife on our figurative toes that some baby swap or abduction was in the works.
Ultimately, it came together in a payoff that made the enterprise – further accessorized by Juliet's jaw-dropping spilling of Sun's big affair – seem well worth it. The way Jin makes peace with Sun's betrayal – "I know the man I used to be. ... His actions caused this" – was not only touching, it resonated for the entire series thematically. And the graveside scene, though straightforward, was truly melancholy.
Additionally, considering how big a story this was, it's impressive that so much other stuff was jammed in.
Highlights: Yunjin Kim and Daniel Dae Kim's performances were exceptional in capturing practically the entire gamut of a marriage - the love, the anger, the sorrow, the friendship and, in the end, the parting. In extraordinary circumstances, they remained very real to me.
The way Bernard stumbled into Sun and Jin's lowest moment was pretty priceless as well. And where many writers would have had him slink away, Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz not only had Bernard press on, he actually quietly delivered a turning point speech.
And I still love every moment Frank has had onscreen. I mean, I never really had an opinion on Jeff Fahey before, but I am really just digging him.
Lowlights: The story of the sixth episode of the season was revisited tonight, with Kate explaining why Charlotte popped her one, and it made no more sense to me the second time around than it did the first time. If Charlotte and Daniel were trying to do something that everyone would support – deactivate a poison gas station – why did they have to be so secretive and antagonistic about it? Even if there's some nefarious scheme behind it, it just seemed like a false conflict for the moment it was in.
The character of Jack – at least the on-island Jack – is suffering right now. You can tell this because even when he has a completely innocuous moment, such as when he's checking in on Sun's condition, he still seems vaguely annoying. Almost like Kate has become.
Truths I'm willing to wait to find out, that you're probably on your way to figuring out: 1) Jin gets the September 22, 2004 deathdate on his tombstone, but that doesn't begin to confirm what really happened to him.
2) Hi Regina. Bye, Regina. See you again in flashback, Regina?
3) We meet the Captain (Grant Bowler). We're told we can't
trust the Captain. Of course not, why would we trust him? Well, turns
out, he tells you just about everything you'd want to know, so you
really want to trust him. Bummer, huh? Anyway, he implies that
Ben is to blame for the 324 dead bodies that were used to forge the
Oceanic crash coverup? Seems plausible – Ben's capable of just about
anything. So do we ignore that? Or should we really not trust ... Michael? Yep, there he is, finally – undercover with an alias. Kevin Johnson's his name,
and fake janitorizing is his game. The problem with Michael as an agent, double-agent or triple-agent is that I still have an emotional pull toward trusting everything Augustus Hill says or does. But let's face it – we can't be sure what to believe.
4) For all the complications Sun was having, how the heck did she push that baby out so quickly? She wasn't even doing her breathing right! Let me assure you, for yours truly and his best gal, that's truly the big question from tonight's "Lost."
– Jon Weisman
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I'm not an expert on Korean headstones. However, I live in L.A. and I could find someone fluent in Korean fairly quickly.
My coworker told me that the dates on the tombstone represent the birth date of Sun and the birth and death dates of Jin. The middle section is Jin's family name including a more formal name.
I was told that normally in Korea the headstone would have the name of the most prominent member of the family and then all the children would be listed on the back. However, I am assuming that Mr. Paik is not dead at the time of the flashback and/or Jin's low social status and mysterious disappearance led to Sun getting a marker for the two of them.
Posted by: Bob Timmermann | March 14, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Fanerman,
My personal theory is that the world does believe that Kate is the biological mother. I was responding to Jon who said, “The simpler assumption is that Kate adopted Aaron because Claire didn't make it?”
My point was that if the world does believe that Kate is the mother, the timeline of the conception and birth is hard to rationally explain. For the story to work, Kate would have had to have been very pregnant after being arrested by the Marshall. We know that wasn’t the case. When she shows up with Aaron, someone would have had to ask where he came from.
Posted by: ibleedbloo | March 14, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Regarding the 3 dates on the tombstone, while I am definitely not a tombstone expert (perhaps Bob can chime in), I heard an explanation that I am rolling with until I hear a better one.
It is a grave for both Jin and Sun
11/27/74 - Jin’s date of birth
9/22/04 - Jin’s date of “death”
3/20/80 – Sun’s date of birth
Another date will be added when Sun dies.
Also if you do some crazy math (i.e. Sun’s birthday 3 + 20 = 23) you get some of “the numbers” (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42)
Posted by: ibleedbloo | March 14, 2008 at 10:47 AM
ibleedbloo,
You seem to be assuming that the entire world knows that Kate's not the real mother, if Kate's not the real mother. I just assumed that Kate's pretending the baby is hers, and every other member of the Oceanic 6 is also pretending she's the mother, for whatever reason.
Thus (playing along with that idea), everybody else in the world think that Kate is the real mother, when she's not. Kate's mother doesn't know that the baby is Claire's. Claire's aunt doesn't know the baby is Claire's. If Claire just died on the island, they could safely assume that the baby died with her.
Posted by: fanerman | March 14, 2008 at 10:44 AM
There's only one more original Lost for a while, but I'll think on it.
Posted by: Jon | March 14, 2008 at 10:41 AM
It seems much more likely that Aaron is the 6th member and not Michael. Michael seems to be the only one who could claim that title, but, he'd be like the "Judas" of the group.
Jon, since you've "retired" screenjam, do you think it might be a good idea to just centralize all chatting to one website (ie, variety)? Perhaps a place-filler "dummy" post that's edited and replaced with the episode review, so then all comments are centralized to one thread? I don't know if that's reasonable given this isn't The Toaster, but it does get a little confusing chatting about Lost on 2 websites.
Posted by: fanerman | March 14, 2008 at 10:39 AM
It seemed to me that Kate is portraying herself as Aaron’s true/biological mother. Some of the things that make me believe that is Kate’s mom wanting to see her grandchild. She does not seem like the type of person who would want to see some random “island baby” (my term).
Also, I think there would have been a much bigger outrage if a known murder was raising a baby that wasn’t even hers.
If the baby was known to be Claire’s, and it is a celebrity baby, I would expect one of Claire’s family (her Aunt is all we really know about) to want to raise the baby.
There is the very real possibility, however, that Claire was one of the 8 who made it to the island, and eventually died. I just think with all of the drama surrounding Kate, it is very irresponsible of the court to let her take care of Aaron.
Posted by: ibleedbloo | March 14, 2008 at 10:38 AM
fanerman, last week's preview of last night's episode promised to reveal "the last of the Oceanic 6". That leads me to believe the 6th member (other than Kate, Jack, Sayid, Hurley, and Sun) is Aaron.
Posted by: Eric Stephen | March 14, 2008 at 08:48 AM
Bob, you sound like you expect everybody on the island to die except for the Oceanic 6. I think most people expect there to be survivors on the island that never left. Jack's testimony at Kate's trial (talking about the events that took place after the crash) was clearly a lie, and a lot of people have to die for that to be true. I don't know about anybody else, but it seems to make more sense that there are people who were just left behind.
Also, there are 3 dates on Jin's tombstone!!!!!
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Posted by: fanerman | March 14, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Yeah. Claire has to be Aaron's mum.
I, too, totally bit on the Jin fake flash-forward.
And I really would have to guess Jin's death will be uh, televised. But, my roommate raised the possibility that Jin might just be left behind on the island (unless the "wherever you go I go" speech is supposed to enforce that if he were alive, he'd be with Sun, and he's in fact dead). The fake date on the tombstone is suspicious. If Jin died later on as he supposedly has, why wouldn't they just put that actual day he died on the tombstone, and not the date of the plane crash? I suppose his death could have happened in some way that they would have had to lie about it, but the fake date seems to be a clue.
I want to re-read the transcript or watch the cemetery scene again. Maybe Sun's little monologue could actually be interpreted as for someone that she misses and is separated from, but is otherwise alive. It's just that since they're at a cemetery, we expect she's talking about her dead husband. Maybe what she said dismisses that idea completely, but I'd like to check.
The "for sure" 6 are: Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun. Has it really been confirmed that all 6 were revealed? Did someone say "all 6 will be revealed in the first 8 episodes"? Labeling Aaron as one of the 6 still seems like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
Posted by: fanerman | March 14, 2008 at 12:45 AM
I don't see why people would be too surprised about Jin's death. Oceanic "Six" does imply that a lot of people aren't going to make it. Rose, Bernard, Locke, Sawyer, Clare, and a lot of others look to be pushing up palm frond crosses in the future.
Posted by: Bob Timmermann | March 14, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Why do you think Kate is Aaron's true mother? The simpler assumption is that Kate adopted Aaron because Claire didn't make it?
Posted by: Jon Weisman | March 14, 2008 at 12:15 AM
If I remember correctly, the writers have killed off every actor who gets in trouble with the law. Anna Lucia, Libby, Mr. Echo, and now Jin. When Daniel Dae Kim was arrested last summer for DUI, I told a friend he was a dead man.
I can really see him making another appearance before the show wraps. Especially since we did not see him take bullets to the chest as we did Anna Lucia and Libby, nor did the black smoke take him out like it did Echo.
Posted by: ibleedbloo | March 13, 2008 at 11:58 PM
I need more time to research and better form my opinions, but the one thing the is really bugging me is the make up of the O6. Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid...easy. How come for the last few weeks everyone, including myself, dismissed Aaron as one of the 6 but after tonight he is included along with Sun.
I'm not sure if it was previews that through us off, but I can almost swear that the preview for tonights episode mentioned something about the last two of the 06 being revealed.
I am also now curious to find out how they explain Aaron as Kate's baby. How "pregnant" was she when she got on the plane and the Marshall didn't notice? I can't think of a reasonable explanation for Kate being Aaron's true mother, the time lines just won't add up.
Posted by: ibleedbloo | March 13, 2008 at 11:51 PM
For all the hype the Jack-Kate-Sawyer love triangle gets, Lost seems to portray and capture most other relationships in a powerful, heartstring-tugging way. I always root for Sun/Jin, Bernard/Rose, and of course Desmond/Penny. That's why it was such a downer to see that Jin is dead, whatever date it may be.
As for more manlier topics, I loved Michael's dunk on Hakeen Olajuwon back in the day. I hope he wins mayor of Sacramento.
Posted by: Eric Stephen | March 13, 2008 at 11:46 PM