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February 10, 2008

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Stuart Creque

"Let's have a level of trust that exists between us so that we don't get back into one of these all-or-nothing situations."

And the best way that the WGA and the other entertainment industry guilds and unions can foster that trust is to form a unified and powerful labor movement, so that they have the collective power to persuade management to keep its promises. If labor is too united to be double-crossed with impunity, management will find it a lot easier to stay honest, and thus trust can take root and grow.

Luzid

"Let's have a level of trust that exists between us so that we don't get back into one of these all-or-nothing situations."

Yeah, because the studios have shown they're soooo trustworthy, what with the decades of shady financing to rob writers of residuals, the horrific DVD/cable 'deals', and the retraction of a promised Most Favored Nations clause at the last minute of this negotiation.

Luzid

"Let's have a level of trust that exists between us so that we don't get back into one of these all-or-nothing situations."

Yeah, because the studios have shown they're soooo trustworthy, what with the decades of shady financing to rob writers of residuals, the horrific DVD/cable 'deals', and the retraction of a promised Most Favored Nations clause at the last minute of this negotiation.

Marian Martell

It seems disingenuous to say: "Let's have a level of trust that exists between us so that we don't get back into one of these all-or-nothing situations." When the AMPTP walked away from the table, twice, refusing to negotiate until after they had damaged the lives of tens of thousands of people (most of them not even members of the WGA). I am still mystified about why the studios and networks wanted to engage in these union busting techniques in the first place. And I'm continuing to write to my Congressional Representative about the anti-labor tactics and the history of secret accounting practices.

Fi Core

Think about thanking the dga for doing what ur leaders couldn't get ,think about all the showrunners working rite now even before a vote, think, about in 3 years so much reality that u will never be able 2 shut down this town,think about.............................walmart !!!!!!!!

Action/Reaction

Trust can't exist with a souless entity like the AMPTP. It is a conglomerate of companies with no real central authority. Trust might be established on a personal level with individual entities, say holding Iger, Chernin, et al to their word, but forget about universal trust. The AMPTP walked away from the table, but it was still a table the WGA set up. By trying to inflict pain and damage upon the entity, they responded by relieving pain. Expecting anything less, or complaining about their tactics, is naive but still could not have happened without the writers inititating it. And the writers will make some real gains, but they will also take some real hits as the studios continue to rework their business model to protect themselves from the pain inflicted this time, just as they did some 20 years ago. None of these battles is fought in a vacuum.

Fi Core

Also think about any job openings u might have. I need a new one soon! Where is a union when u need one!!!!!

Fi Core

get ready for more pink slips go american idol !!!!!!

My last post here

As the strike ends, I'm no longer surprised by someone like Fi Core's posts. Obviously, he or she knows nothing about the situation, despite having posted so fiercely (and ironically, with such awful writing skills). I'm now pretty sure s/he does this just to get a rise out of writers and has had some success. Good for you. Just so you know, the DGA got their deal done with much better terms for them because of the strike. Period. Never would've happened otherwise. Also, without the strike, the WGA becomes a dead union in a rather short amount of time. No new media, no contributions to pension and health, decline and end of union. So we had to strike simply to survive in a country where unions have been beaten down for 30 years. Is that simple enough to digest even for you, Mr. or Ms. Fi Core? That, and the fact that every writer on the line knew they'd never see the amount of money they were losing during the strike back in their pockets because of this deal. It was for the future, and future writers, like the generations before did for us. So the strike is done, but for the vote to officially end it, and this is my last post here. Goodbye, Fi Core. I'm going back to work and I don't have time to play with you anymore. I hope whatever has made you so bitter isn't so bad that you can't overcome it one day. Or if you simply were a paid corporate shill, then may I say, you were pretty terrible at making your case. The companies should get their money back.

Paul

Good luck, Fi-Core, as you wander off to heckle the next cause as a way of trying to fill your awful, empty day. Maybe you can hook up with one of the other countless online deadbeats who have stood on the sidelines of this dispute, adding pointless, ignorant, poorly spelt rants.

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